Right now you are spending your time raging in the forum about it. :<
This is a great place to play, I really enjoy playing here and I NEVER suspect anyone while playing.
No engine is needed to beat a little me! That is a simple fact!
Look: we both are playing blitz.
I have played over 5000 games here and I think I got refunded points only twice.
So in my experience, the percentage of cheaters is pretty low, at least in the 2000-2200 rating-range (I get paired with them in the lobby) and in any other rating range in the tournaments or when I accept random personal challenges.
@iutisteli What do you mean by suspicious rating evolution?
If someone just started playing chess, they would improve a lot within the first few months. I've only been play chess for about 6 months and my rating has gone up around 500 points since then.
simply play ultra bullet, cheating is rare there (in case you don't interprete lag compensation as cheating)
I'm sure Funkmaus does face very little cheating. At my level on lichess, blitz 1900-2000, it is quite common. And I never had a refund that I can remember of. They thank you for spotting obvious or sometimes not so obivous cheaters, but that's it. Some accounts even keep on functionning... after ridiculous level of cheating is showed off. Most people don't cheat, for sure. But remember that there is a lot of players who are under 2100 and that's where most of the cheating happens. Not only is it unfair, it breaks your figthing spirit and sucks from your heart the joy of playing against people from all over the world. A cheater's account should be deleted once and for all. Completely. All elo lost given back to the players on the other end of the cheating. Because it is free, people take advantage of it. It should stay free and people who have the means, as little as they are, to donate, should do so. But the cheating issue is bigger than appears at higher levels. For average players, it's an issue titled players should not dismmiss. Look at the drama of one suspicion of cheating in titled playing. Well, 99% of chess is not payed at that level and that is where all the cheating is happening, and by a factor much higher of 1 to 100, because the stakes for the cheater are non-existent if caught. Not so for the reputation of a titled player. Cheating is a problem at low and medium levels first of all.
Cheaters can’t impede your chess from improving- only theirs. Losses should be analyzed for your mistakes to improve upon, not to try and justify your mistakes by concluding you were playing against an engine as if that’s why you made those mistakes. Focus on improving your moves, not worrying how your opponent is making theirs.
-Jordan
I don't quite understand why at 2000 blitz level most cheating happens ?!
First of all there are probably different types of cheating. For example I lost quite some games on time when I still had some time on the clock. In this cases it appears to you like your opponent is thinking but suddenly the server says you have lost on time although it was not your move and you had no chance to make a move since for you it's your opponents turn.
I'm not sure whether this is cheating or a lichess bug in fact but I suspected some clock hacking. My internet connection wasn't the problem. That's for sure.
You could also cheat by using an opening database like Chessbase Live for example. In this case you don't cheat with an engine but it's still cheating.
Engine cheaters should have a much higher rating than 2000 in blitz so why is it most common at 2000 level?
@Funkmaus I have a friend who consistently uses engines to pre-check non-obvious moves on
chess.com. He doesn't do it every single move but he does it almost every single game. And after 6 months doing it he still hasn't been banned, not even a warning message. And if it happens on
chess.com I wouldn't be surprised if it's also happening on this site. While I think (hope) most people don't cheat, I do think it would be candid to say the least not to admit that cheating is a real problem in online gaming, chess included.
#1 , I have one question :
I have also sometimes seen people NOT CHEATING but they still get the defeat by "cheating" just because they are very good!
Why does this happen?
Other than that, a cheat suspicion warning is really good.
Im getting used to it , sometimes i play like an engine , cause i trained with one , as i started playing .
